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This page will be treated in like manner to the pages involving
the water baptiosm debates and speaking in tongues. It is provided to supply links to
both United Pentecostal
Church (UPCI) writings and those of similar or differing beliefs. It should be noted that most churches which call themselves 'apostolic' hold the same main beliefs on salvation as the UPCI, with the exception of churches which are part
of the New Apostolic Reformation.
Is God one, manifesting himself in three ways, or is
God one, yet three persons? Does 'persons' mean to the Trinitarian what the UPC says it does?
The United Pentecostal Church teaches that God
is one, manifesting himself in three ways. They believe Jesus is not only
the Son, but also the Father and Holy Spirit. While some claim this is modalism, it is different.
This belief has been referred to as 'Oneness' or 'Jesus only'. In contrast, the majority of Christian churches teach a Trinitarian concept. While the
words 'trinity' and 'oneness' are not found in the Bible, this truth doesn't mean anything in determining the veracity, or lack thereof, of either teaching.
Mormon and Jehovah's Witnesses teachings also reject a Trinitarian concept. Both of these have skewed beliefs and are not considered Christian groups.
Having been a very active member of a UPC church for
many years, I have witnessed differing views on how people in that organization
view Trinitarians. Some treat them as fellow Christians, yet others
won't consider them as brothers and sisters in the Lord. Some believe that
those who don't hold to the Oneness view are lost. I've seen Oneness
believers go so far as to state that Trinitarian believers don't even know Jesus.
One of the most extreme statements I've heard is from an independent Apostolic minister who stated in two posts on an Apostolic board: "I would rather have every family member I have on alcohol and drugs than sitting in a false church and you can print that on USA TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...." & "A false church is one that does NOT preach Acts 2:38 as God's plan of salvation." (Comments made on September 11, 2005 on Faithchild Forum [no longer in operation] by Steve Epley.) On May 5, 2006 Epley made the following statement on the New Faithchild Forum, also closed, "I remember an event that I thought would generate some interest.
I man who thought himself very philsophical asked me once. "You are Oneness are you not? What is the main difference between we Trinitarians and you Oneness people? If you could please give me something
short and concise since I am in a hurry?" I said yes sir the main difference is "saved and lost." Excuse me" he said looking questioning? "Yes we are saved and you are lost that would be the main
difference." He seemed a little "put off" as the philsophical would say." Epley has continued to write similar comments through the years.
On the opposite side, James White shared in an article on Phillips, Craig & Dean, a popular singing group, that he stopped listening to their music when he found they had Oneness beliefs. One statement made was: "Likewise, I don't believe it is proper to be led in worship
by someone who worships a different God than I do and who specifically denies the truth of the Triune existence of
God."This article appeared in the Volume 21, Number 4 issue of the Christian Research Journal.
There have been many in the UPC that inaccurately portray Trinitarian
beliefs (and the same happens in reverse). A young boy I know shared that his UPC Sunday School teacher taught
Trinitarians believed in three kings and that there would be three thrones in heaven. My former pastor went so far as to state, from the pulpit,
that if any of us were attending a Trinitarian church when the rapture took
place, we would be left behind.
Statements such as the above can make Oneness the issue
many former UPC members grapple with the most. Some who leave will not even
consider attending any church that does not teach Oneness for fear of being forever lost.
The following links will take you to writings on both
sides of the issue. Note that there are a few links which didn't
quite fit into either category but are included anyway because they somehow
address the issue.
* Denotes the article
is posted directly on this site, with all others being links.
This is a written archive of a debate between UPCI minister Paul Ferguson and Church of Christ minister Wayne Jackson on April 24-25, 1970.
Click here.
This is another written debate between Billy Lewis and Stephen Wiggins. Click here.
Years back, then General Superintendent Nathaniel Urshan, along with Robert Sabin, appeared on the John Ankerberg Show. On the Trinitarian side appeared Walter Martin and Calvin Beisner. Note how many times Nathaniel Urshan was asked by Walter
Martin if he was his brother, a believer, a Christian, and saved and the difficulty Urshan had in responding.
Back in May 1989, four segments of a show were filmed where David K. Bernard and J. L. Hall of the UPCI debate Robert Morey and Edgar Havaich about Oneness Pentecostal theology.
Skylar McManus shares about being raised Oneness Pentecostal and moving from Oneness to Orthodoxy. At the 1986 Oneness Symposium, Robert Sabin addresses the charge of whether
the UPCI is Christian group or a cult.
Debate between Nathan Dudley and Edward Dalcour 11/11/16; Debate between Edward Dalcour and Steve Ritchie 1/3/18.
Debate between pastors Steve Ritchie and Bruce Bennett; Debate between James White and David Bernard.
Debate between Gino Jennings & Reginald Young; Debate between James White and Roger Perkins.
Debate between David Bernard & Gene Cook; Debate between John Tancock and Marvin Sanguinetti.
Debate between James White and Robert Sabin- Parts 1 & 2.
Debate between pastors Steve Ritchie and Michael Burgos; Debate between Steven Ritchie and Sam Shamoun.
Debate between Manuel Culwell and James White; Debate between David Bernard and Jamal Badawl (Muslim).
Debate between Steve Ritchie and Steve Morrison Parts 1 & 2; 3 & 4.
Debate between Steve Ritchie and Steve Morrison Lost Part of Part 4; Debate between Gordon Magee and W. L. Toddy.
Debate between Kelly Powers and Otis Lewis
Below is a song written and performed by a non-UPCI apostolic that illustrates how many apostolics believe Trinitarians are lost.
Updated November 19, 2023 & all links checked April 21, 2023
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